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Thomas Butler Gunn Diaries: Volume 2, page 112, June 7, 1851

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Identifier: DX01023581

Title: Thomas Butler Gunn Diaries: Volume 2, page 112, June 7, 1851

Description: Describes a visit to Mrs. Kidder and meeting Miss Brown there.


[177] Canal Street; got newspaper and sat awhile with Homer Hall and his wife [Alzina Hall], then to [55] Franklin Street and Mrs [Rebecca] Kidders. There I found [Arthur] Mason, Miss Jane Gibson, a male visitor whose name dwelleth not in my memory and a girl English-born, of whom more anon. Talk, as wont, first of the topics of the day; — Jenny Lind, and the new costume for ladies a la Turque. [word crossed out]. From thence to the rights of women, and notions of propriety, whether conventional, or founded on just notions of female character. I think there’s [word crossed out] justice in some of these complaints. Women don’t want to handle the ballot-box or assume priviledge [privilege] of stump oratory, but tis hard that if desirous of attending concert or theatre she must risk caste and character by going alone, or ask, or inveigle some male biped to accompany her, whom curtain also condemns if he do not pay for both whether able so to do or not. It works ill, both ways; — false chivalry in spaking of and treating women is too common. Individual irksome departing, and Mason esquiring Miss Gibson on her way home; a “General” called who like General Fladdock in [Martin] Chuzzlewit had just returned from England, though with favourable impressions; he addressing his converse to Mrs K, I did the same to the lady English born; [words crossed out]. Dark haired dark-eyed, tall in figure, possessing a positively beautiful bust: (when standing, shoulders well back, (not too common a case with women) and head erect, she was almost handsome [words crossed out]. She was dressed in white, arms bare, hands small, — (arms also — I know not whether this be a beauty, yet hers were delicately rounded, and fair skinned.) With this “Miss Brown” (I wonder what her christian name is. x[words crossed out]x) I sate, and talked a good hour and half or more, ending only when past midnight. We talked of female Character, of “Lotty [Kidder],” of nationality, of [word crossed out] England — (she had quitted in fourteen years ago, then at the age of eight,) of Phrenology,


x Margaret, a name of which the pleasantest association & from [Geoffrey] Chaucer’s daisy.

Rights: NoC-US


Dates: 1851-06-07

Type(s): Diary

Maker/Creator: Gunn, Thomas Butler, 1826-1903

Subjects: Diaries
Clothing and dress


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