Search Our New Beta Online Collections!

Thomas Butler Gunn Diaries: Volume 2, page 182, September 18, 1851

<< Back to search results

View this document

From collection:Part of:

Identifier: DX09055715

Title: Thomas Butler Gunn Diaries: Volume 2, page 182, September 18, 1851

Description: Mentions a conversation with Mrs. Kidder about her history.


expressed a general desire to lick all the men about the establishment. / Talk of humors of revenge, previous to [John B.] Holmes leaving to have a farewell evening party, [William] Barth to bring fifer, drummer & trumpeter from the [Governors] Island, a concert vocal, instrumenttal and nocturnal, songs with row-de-dow choruses and extensive accompanyments. Holmes says he’ll do it. Wilkins came, and we three schoolfellows talk together. Left at 12, and with Barth to Beekman Street, (to the house where Alf Waud once put up at;) we having ascertained that A Mr Guthrie was abiding there. But [word crossed out] it proved to be another man and wherefore I [word crossed out] fear we shan’t find out our old schoolmaster. Wilkins, careless dog! never cared to take his address. Somewhere in Beekman Street, that’s all. Speered about to no effect. Ale together, then saw Barth to the Brooklyn side, & returned to dinner. Drew all the afternoon. Evening to Mrs [Rebecca] Kidders. She and Jane Gibson there, the latter very sick, and soon left for another room. Talk with Mrs K, she relating how Lotty [Kidder] was projecting going South, to Georgia, and then out with “friends” to decide. Of her nurture and nature, and of Mrs K’s early history, self-told. Wedded at 15, man well to-do, fooled away his money, got low, bad, degraded tastes, separation, divorce, Mrs K self-maintaining. Lotty first at school, then under an uncle’s guardianship, (the one where Charles Brown whilome visited her;) — then recently, by her own will returned to her mother. Antagonistic, listened to talk against her mother by the father’s relatives; wanted more money than her mother could spare her; dress &c, in a word ambitious; — therefore she would go South. God knows what feelings there may be between the mother & daughter, but the anticipated indefinite parting sits lightly enough it would seem. Mrs K talks about it elaborately to any body. / Pope came — nothing in him. Another came. / Saw Lotty on leaving, (as I passed down the staircase,) tete a tete with Pope. She looked sulky and called me “Sir!” the result of my telling her last time that she oughn’t to lay her head on [Arthur] Mason’s lap publicly. Gave me written out song I’d asked for, whereon I gave curt thanks & left.

Rights: NoC-US

Place: United States
New York

Dates: 1851-09-18

Type(s): Diary

Maker/Creator: Gunn, Thomas Butler, 1826-1903

Subjects: Music
19th century


| More

Disclaimer: We are working to create a web-based collection index. Information available through this website should be considered "draft only."