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Thomas Butler Gunn Diaries: Volume 9, page 62, January 23-24, 1858

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Identifier: DX03452942

Title: Thomas Butler Gunn Diaries: Volume 9, page 62, January 23-24, 1858

Description: Regarding a discussion with Fitz James O'Brien, Henry Clapp, and Frank Cahill about rich men.


Some days back I lent Miss Lizzie Petit the novel of "Guy Livingtone," she wishing to read it. To-day I got it back, with penciled lines of attention or admiration of her doing. These occur especially where he girds at the virtue of women &c, and in one place, here a coquette's triumphs are spoken of, is a silly "Ha! ha! ha!" Suggestive, I think of the writer's character! Literary ladies, and women who aspire to a sham Bohemianism — which ought to be called simple impropriety — are prone to this sort of thing. Mrs [Rebecca] Kidder used to do it, and I remember Lotty [Kidder] underscoring my copy of "Esmond" where it condemned husbands. Unless a reader knows something above the average, or can offer pertinent information, it's sheer conceit, this sort of annotation. What do I care what the man who's preceded me in a book's perusal thinks of it? or what does he care for my opinion. I very respectfully, india-rubbered Miss Petit out of "Gary Livingstone." [Gunn's notation: I’m not sure that they were her notes, after all. Feb 16 They were.]

Writing for the rest of the day.

24. Sunday. To [James] Parton's. Found [Jesse] Haney there. He left in the afternoon, Parton accompanying him to New York, presently returning alone. I called at "Doesticks" [Mortimer Thomson] at night. Found [Fitz James] O'Brien and [Henry] Clapp in Haney's room on my return, [Frank] Cahill with them. Got into a sort of discussion with the two former about money and rich men, they railing at 'em after a common fashion, and at the supposed deference paid to them: I holding that such railing did not good, might originate in envy and bosh — that if you looked close enough you might find out a certain amount of right in everything, even in the popular respect for wealth — money representing, tangibly, somebody's labor, intellect and ability. Let the rich have fair play in talk — they do in life — and away with the piti-

Rights: NoC-US


Dates: 1858-01-23

Type(s): Diary

Maker/Creator: Gunn, Thomas Butler, 1826-1903

Subjects: Women authors
Bohemians (New York artistic and literary movement)
Books and reading


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