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Thomas Butler Gunn Diaries: Volume 6, page 225, December 22-24, 1853

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Identifier: DX04210873

Title: Thomas Butler Gunn Diaries: Volume 6, page 225, December 22-24, 1853

Description: Describes a philosophic conversation about religion with Alfred Waud on Christmas Eve


a head of him by Titian is the best I’ve ever seen — where he is crown with thorns. I know it but through the medium of engravings.)

23. Friday. Down town to Wells & Webb, & called at [Edwin] Weeds. Returning, at work. [Frank] Hillard called, & [Alfred] Waud. / Met [Joseph] Richardson after dinner, he off for Philadelphia on Christmas Day, — says money’s “tight.” Drawing all the afternoon. Evening the same, and writing.

24. Saturday. Breakfasted at Sweeneys, thence down town, to Picayune Office, Wells & Webb & [Thomas W.] Strongs. Got $29 for drawings from latter. Spruce Street again, and by 1, to room, with blocks and papers &c. Drawing. To Picayune Office at 4 1/2, got paid, thence to Brooklyn, Waud not at the Fulton house; returned; at [Frank] Leslie & Hoopers engraving rooms, found [Charles] Damoreau alone atop of building; he leaving, walked together to Vesey Street; I supped & to room. Waud and afterwards Damoreau came, as invited, and Hillard chanced up. Talk, brandy-tods & smoke. Damoreau left first, but 10 or so. A discussion on the question of the divinity of the founder of our Religion. Waud mooting points of doubt, thus. That Creation is on so vast a scale, infinite worlds and systems of worlds circling throughout space, — what Right have we to believe in an Immortality for ourselves? What that a divine being should appear and suffer for our redemption, for our teacher and guide? That as all we discover but intimates progress in the scale of created beings, and that this universe and the myriads of others unveiled by the Abraham telescope, is governed by grand, simple, regular, unswerving, mighty Laws; — why not then suppose the all Just, all good, awful Creator of

Rights: NoC-US


Dates: 1853-12-22

Type(s): Diary

Maker/Creator: Gunn, Thomas Butler, 1826-1903

Subjects: Diaries


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